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Quest within/start in/ suggestion

I suggest we create a separate category for Quests within zones, instead of listing where they begin/end within the page of the zone itself, thus making pages less wordy and more sleek looking.

Vulasuw (talk) 21:30, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

I agree with this suggestion. The way that it currently is is confusing, although I further suggest that this list be broken down by neighborhood. Shaudius (talk) 21:24, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

This sounds alright to me. — oOeyes 01:17, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Consistent Capitalization

While the Wiki is still in its nascent stages I think it is important to establish page standards. Currently some pages and categories have their second word capitalized and some do not. I propose that all pages conform to title structure. For instance, a page titled gold coins would be placed on the wiki as "Gold Coins" and not "Gold coins". A page entitled for love of money would be entered into the wiki as "For Love of Money" not "For Love Of Money" or "for love of money" I will do my best to correct pages and create redirects so that all pages meet this standard if it is agreeable to others. Shaudius (talk) 21:44, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Agreed! I will also format this way from now on. Vulasuw (talk) 22:35, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Due to the case sensitivity rules of titles, there is a standard I was trying to follow:

• If the term is fully capitalized in-game, do the same for the title since we're likely to do the same in links.
  • In other words, always match in-game capitalization where you can.
• When the terms aren't used in-game, follow widespread wiki conventions and only capitalize the first world and proper nouns.

I know this will result in inconsistency, but the standard is intended to keep linking simple. We generally wouldn't be writing "gold coins" as "Gold Coins". It's much easier to type [[gold coins]] in the middle of the sentence than [[Gold Coins|gold coins]].

On the other hand, in-game text is so frequently fully capitalizing things like the names of foes that if we followed typical wiki convention there, we'd end up typing [[Undead soldier|Undead Soldier]] all the time rather than being able to type [[Undead Soldier]].

Establishing redirects, like "Gold coins" -> "Gold Coins" helps with this, but it is a time-consuming process for so many pages, and I think we have to accept that there will always be gaps.

And realistically, the same standard should be followed for headings in pages too, since those can also be linked to. — oOeyes 01:06, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Oh, and to add to this, for the same reasons, singular forms should be favored in titles. Easier to write [[class]] and [[Class]]es than it is to write [[Classes|class]] and [[Classes]]. The exceptions are when you're never likely to use the singular form. "List of quests" is fine because we're not going to be typing "List of quest". — oOeyes 01:21, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

I do agree that if we are referencing in game terms of any sort they should follow full capitalization. For instance, Adventure Zone not Adventure zone, Dungeon Delve not Dungeon delve, etc. Gold coins is perhaps a bad example to illustrate this as Gold coins are not specifically referenced in the game, instead they are referred to as Gold and the overall system of Gold, Silver, and Copper is referred to as "Money."

However, I believe that since the majority of the Wiki will be comprised of in game terms, NPCs, items, and locations, all of which are specified in the game and use title capitalization, I don't think it would be a problem to use this type of structure throughout as the vast majority of pages on the Wiki would already conform to this standard, so the situations where it doesn't apply will be few and far between and would appear to the normal reader as incorrect since every other page would seem to be following a different standard. Shaudius (talk) 04:31, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Foundry Section Redundant Pages

It seems that the Foundry quick start page isn't quite needed, as most of the (possible) information that would go there is already on the Foundry and Guide to the Foundry pages. Vulasuw (talk) 00:36, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

The developers suggested it, and I'm not sure yet that it should be considered redundant. Having a page that summarizes such a complex system could be useful. — oOeyes 01:09, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Handling user-generated content

I think we need to get this conversation started quickly since we're now a few days away from early access to the open beta, and this was somewhat controversial back on STOWiki as well. Let's discuss how we want to handle pages for Foundry content on Project talk:User generated content.

Category Structure

Another topic that I think needs a decision fairly quickly is category structure, since there will be a lot of pages added to the Wiki in short order I think we need to have an infrastructure in place for category navigation. Lets talk about it at Project talk:Categorization.

Non-English NW Wikis

I would like to start working on the German version of this wiki, as the game is translated into German, too. I will start by doing sub-pages with a language suffix, in accordance of what I've heard from Curse:

Our standard practice is to let users make translation on subpages initially. (Example: A French translation for "Signs of Life" would be at "Signs of Life/fr".) Once they have enough of a skeleton fleshed out, we open a new wiki for the language with it's own dedicated domain and transfer the content to it. An example of it is http://terraria.gamepedia.com/ and http://terraria-fr.gamepedia.com/

I've also made a template to be placed on those pages, {{Translated}}, that explains the process a bit and puts the sub-page into the new category Non-English Pages to easily identify when needed.

A first example can be seen here: Sergeant Knox/de

Note: Any help from other non-English people would be greatly appreciated. Please do not use the translated page title yet, using the sub-pages for now (with /de and /fr) ensures that they can be easily integrated into the new wiki and will immediately include the inter-wiki link to the English page, as it is always clear what page they are a translation of. The template can also be enhanced with more language suffixes if there are plans to have the wiki in more additional languages.

FridiEU (talk) 14:37, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Request: Stats Explanation

Hi, I love your Wiki.

I'd just like to make a small request, if possible, could you create a page that explains what all the different stats on gear do? Things like Power, Recovery, Deflection and so forth.

Thanks very much for all your hard work.

I agree, and it's been a crazy week for me, so this isn't something I've been to sort out myself. I'd like to add either expanding Character or creating a separate article that covers overall character progression, explaining heroic tier, heroic feats, paragon path, and so on in the order you get these things as you level up is something we should really have if anyone who has it all sorted out has time. — oOeyes 08:40, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

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i would like to know if it is possible to change language in the game, please...